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	<title>Comments on: A Not So Good Day For Women&#039;s Hockey: What Were the Canadian Women Thinking?</title>
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	<description>Nicole M. LaVoi, Ph.D.</description>
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		<title>By: Arian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2011 10:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a really a controversy but I think it up to them how to celebrate it.. But they should put it on mind that there is camera all around them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a really a controversy but I think it up to them how to celebrate it.. But they should put it on mind that there is camera all around them</p>
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		<title>By: nmlavoi</title>
		<link>http://www.nicolemlavoi.com/a-not-so-good-day-for-womens-hockeywhat-were-the-canadian-women-thinking#comment-501</link>
		<dc:creator>nmlavoi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emily- Your point is well taken! Thanks for offering your perspective. I agree that we should be primarily celebrating the great play of two great teams. The End. -nml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emily- Your point is well taken! Thanks for offering your perspective. I agree that we should be primarily celebrating the great play of two great teams. The End. -nml</p>
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		<title>By: emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 01:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say, this is similar to the Vonn controversy - the more we dwell on their celebration, the less attention their performance gets.  In continually damning their celebration as unsportsmanlike we are manifesting our own disapointment, and detracting from their talent.  We don&#039;t want the celebration to be their legacy, but guess what? The more it is picked apart, the more it will become just that.  Yes, it was unprofessional.  Yes, at the Olympics, it should have been done off camera.  But my god, they are human and...they just WON GOLD.  THAT is what&#039;s important.  They got their scolding...enough.  I firmly believe if this were a men&#039;s team, the general public would be smiling a bemused smile and giving each other &quot;ah shucks!&quot; pats on the back.  We should be doing so for the women, and that we are not is where the unfairness really shows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, this is similar to the Vonn controversy &#8211; the more we dwell on their celebration, the less attention their performance gets.  In continually damning their celebration as unsportsmanlike we are manifesting our own disapointment, and detracting from their talent.  We don&#8217;t want the celebration to be their legacy, but guess what? The more it is picked apart, the more it will become just that.  Yes, it was unprofessional.  Yes, at the Olympics, it should have been done off camera.  But my god, they are human and&#8230;they just WON GOLD.  THAT is what&#8217;s important.  They got their scolding&#8230;enough.  I firmly believe if this were a men&#8217;s team, the general public would be smiling a bemused smile and giving each other &#8220;ah shucks!&#8221; pats on the back.  We should be doing so for the women, and that we are not is where the unfairness really shows.</p>
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		<title>By: nmlavoi</title>
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		<dc:creator>nmlavoi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle,
Thanks for providing this perspective! I was aware the perceptions of the team&#039;s actions were very different in the US than in Canada. Admittedly, in the US the reaction was a bit xenophobic. I appreciate you taking the time to post this link. -nml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle,<br />
Thanks for providing this perspective! I was aware the perceptions of the team&#8217;s actions were very different in the US than in Canada. Admittedly, in the US the reaction was a bit xenophobic. I appreciate you taking the time to post this link. -nml</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a counter view and one that you&#039;ll find reflected across Canada today...
http://www.ctvolympics.ca/hockey/news/newsid=53546.html?cid=rss</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a counter view and one that you&#8217;ll find reflected across Canada today&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.ctvolympics.ca/hockey/news/newsid=53546.html?cid=rss" rel="nofollow">http://www.ctvolympics.ca/hockey/news/newsid=53546.html?cid=rss</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post and thanks for the shout! I am sorry it will likely be their legacy, but undoubtedly people will learn from this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post and thanks for the shout! I am sorry it will likely be their legacy, but undoubtedly people will learn from this.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good celebration to have off camera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good celebration to have off camera.</p>
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		<title>By: Demetri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Demetri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good afternoon Nicole (long-time, first-time),

Do you think that your post (particularly the bits about alcohol) is a particularly American, even Americanist, attitude towards the post-gold medal celebration?

The whole lesbian/dyke meme is not something that should be laid on the Canadian hockey players.  Correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but this meme is common and probably will likely be in circulation whether beer and cigars are involved or not, no?

It is not any individual player&#039;s job or team&#039;s job to circumscribe their behavior to allay heterosexist, prejudiced, and ignorant accusations.  Nor is it their responsibility to bring their behavior into some sort of hetero-normative or gender-normative compliance.  In fact, the more those sorts of expectations can be broken down, the better.  I actually appreciated the joy that is evident in the Canadian team&#039;s post-game celebration.

The Canadian women won gold - the biggest game of the year (or the quadrennial - there is no real equivalent of Lord Stanley&#039;s Cup for women). They celebrated - and they celebrated in the context of a long standing tradition of Canadian hockey which they grew up watching and playing.

As for the Olympic Committee looking into the celebration, I honestly don&#039;t think that they have an ethical leg to stand on, especially after the disgusting manner that they blamed Nodar Kumaritashvili for his own death (for more on the Olympic committee - http://www.progressive.org/zirin022510.html).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good afternoon Nicole (long-time, first-time),</p>
<p>Do you think that your post (particularly the bits about alcohol) is a particularly American, even Americanist, attitude towards the post-gold medal celebration?</p>
<p>The whole lesbian/dyke meme is not something that should be laid on the Canadian hockey players.  Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but this meme is common and probably will likely be in circulation whether beer and cigars are involved or not, no?</p>
<p>It is not any individual player&#8217;s job or team&#8217;s job to circumscribe their behavior to allay heterosexist, prejudiced, and ignorant accusations.  Nor is it their responsibility to bring their behavior into some sort of hetero-normative or gender-normative compliance.  In fact, the more those sorts of expectations can be broken down, the better.  I actually appreciated the joy that is evident in the Canadian team&#8217;s post-game celebration.</p>
<p>The Canadian women won gold &#8211; the biggest game of the year (or the quadrennial &#8211; there is no real equivalent of Lord Stanley&#8217;s Cup for women). They celebrated &#8211; and they celebrated in the context of a long standing tradition of Canadian hockey which they grew up watching and playing.</p>
<p>As for the Olympic Committee looking into the celebration, I honestly don&#8217;t think that they have an ethical leg to stand on, especially after the disgusting manner that they blamed Nodar Kumaritashvili for his own death (for more on the Olympic committee &#8211; <a href="http://www.progressive.org/zirin022510.html)" rel="nofollow">http://www.progressive.org/zirin022510.html)</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: dave c.</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave c.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with you that this probably will do some harm for women&#039;s sports, which is too bad. I have nothing but sympathy for athletes who make bad decisions(and in the scheme of things this isn&#039;t that bad a decision) while celebrating a win. We&#039;ve all been there. They do look like they&#039;re having a good time don&#039;t they? And that makes me smile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with you that this probably will do some harm for women&#8217;s sports, which is too bad. I have nothing but sympathy for athletes who make bad decisions(and in the scheme of things this isn&#8217;t that bad a decision) while celebrating a win. We&#8217;ve all been there. They do look like they&#8217;re having a good time don&#8217;t they? And that makes me smile.</p>
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