Comments on: On Champagne, Cigars, Celebrating, and Chicks (i.e., female athletes) http://www.nicolemlavoi.com/on-champagne-cigars-celebrating-and-chicks-i-e-female-athletes Nicole M. LaVoi, Ph.D. Thu, 29 Mar 2012 22:20:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.3 By: nmlavoi http://www.nicolemlavoi.com/on-champagne-cigars-celebrating-and-chicks-i-e-female-athletes#comment-505 nmlavoi Thu, 06 May 2010 19:35:41 +0000 http://nicolemlavoi.com/?p=1942#comment-505 Amy-Thanks for posting. -nml Amy-Thanks for posting. -nml

]]> By: Amy http://www.nicolemlavoi.com/on-champagne-cigars-celebrating-and-chicks-i-e-female-athletes#comment-504 Amy Thu, 06 May 2010 02:38:21 +0000 http://nicolemlavoi.com/?p=1942#comment-504 What a great point - Canadian media simply does not note this newsworthy. That says quite a lot, as in the U.S., people are starving for the quick, flashy news story positing a scandal over anything else. It's simply not a big deal. Yet, it reignites the question of how women's sports should be viewed - and to bring them into view in the first place. Bravo on a lovely article. What a great point – Canadian media simply does not note this newsworthy. That says quite a lot, as in the U.S., people are starving for the quick, flashy news story positing a scandal over anything else.

It’s simply not a big deal.

Yet, it reignites the question of how women’s sports should be viewed – and to bring them into view in the first place. Bravo on a lovely article.

]]> By: emily http://www.nicolemlavoi.com/on-champagne-cigars-celebrating-and-chicks-i-e-female-athletes#comment-503 emily Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:20:34 +0000 http://nicolemlavoi.com/?p=1942#comment-503 YES! i like this post much better than the one i commented on before! (sorry, only reading this one now). #3 hits it on the head: people (I suppose you could call them feminists) want these female athletes to PERFORM. TO be strong, fast, intense and passionate just like the men, yet they then hold them up to a stringent, Emily Post - like scale of decorum, to which the men are not subjected. They are in fact putting MORE pressure on these female athletes than the men. The women not only have to strive be equal to men "on the field", but they must surpass them off the field. I understand all too well that there is inequality in sport - i come from a profession where prize money is often literally double for the men's fields. but these standards to which women athletes are being held far surpass how we judge male athletes, and we are NOT helping women gain equality in sport when we flex this judgement so inconsistently. YES! i like this post much better than the one i commented on before! (sorry, only reading this one now). #3 hits it on the head: people (I suppose you could call them feminists) want these female athletes to PERFORM. TO be strong, fast, intense and passionate just like the men, yet they then hold them up to a stringent, Emily Post – like scale of decorum, to which the men are not subjected. They are in fact putting MORE pressure on these female athletes than the men. The women not only have to strive be equal to men “on the field”, but they must surpass them off the field. I understand all too well that there is inequality in sport – i come from a profession where prize money is often literally double for the men’s fields. but these standards to which women athletes are being held far surpass how we judge male athletes, and we are NOT helping women gain equality in sport when we flex this judgement so inconsistently.

]]> By: cindy http://www.nicolemlavoi.com/on-champagne-cigars-celebrating-and-chicks-i-e-female-athletes#comment-502 cindy Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:22:52 +0000 http://nicolemlavoi.com/?p=1942#comment-502 I don't believe the reaction is US-centric at all, and I would have the exact same reaction to men celebrating the same way (disappointment). So perhaps for me it is less about a male / female expectations and standards, but more about behavior of athletes at the pinnacle of their careers...I would just hope for more. I think athletes should be happy, rejoice, and do things that illustrate what world-class athletes they are. A celebration with alcohol and nicotine on Olympic ice seems counter-intuitive to me. I realize, though, through reading many blogs about this and comments submitted, I am in the vast minority here! Anyway, thanks for the thought-provoking posts. I don’t believe the reaction is US-centric at all, and I would have the exact same reaction to men celebrating the same way (disappointment). So perhaps for me it is less about a male / female expectations and standards, but more about behavior of athletes at the pinnacle of their careers…I would just hope for more. I think athletes should be happy, rejoice, and do things that illustrate what world-class athletes they are. A celebration with alcohol and nicotine on Olympic ice seems counter-intuitive to me. I realize, though, through reading many blogs about this and comments submitted, I am in the vast minority here! Anyway, thanks for the thought-provoking posts.

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